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Title: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Bill L. on Wed 05/27/09 12:18 PM
Mike Valdez, a former F-16 Crew Chief, goes by "Viper Enforcer" on the various forums.  He is one of the two Mikes in TwoMikes resin.  He's got a stong opinion, but then again that is what you want when you want an expert to describe what they think a kit's faults are.

http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=2284&highlight=Kinetic

Search Zone 5 for "Kinetic" in the Jets Forum.  I got lots of hits.

Bill L.

Thank you Lee K. for bringing this to my attention as I was looking at the Kinetic kit.
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Boltgun88 on Wed 07/22/09 08:08 PM
Bill, 

     I have read this and am still a bit confused.  Is the 1/48 Tamiya CJ kit the way to go?  I have an opportunity to buy 4 Tamiya [F-16CJ]kits at 10 bucks a pop on Friday.  Have never been a Viper expert - the aircraft is growing on me - guidance please.
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Lee_K on Wed 07/22/09 08:30 PM
The Tamiya 1/48 scale F-16CJ kit is the best Viper kit of them all.  $10 a piece?  That's a bargain!

Lee K
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Boltgun88 on Wed 07/22/09 08:38 PM
Bueno - Gracias - Estate sale - 2nd trip on Friday - Picked up a Tamiya 1/32 F-15E with bunker buster for 25 bones on Monday........ Still shaking my head on that one - going cash heavy on Friday - will advise and share the wealth.
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Bill L. on Wed 07/22/09 08:40 PM
Based on what I read, speaking purely from a shape and accuracy standpoint, the Hasegawa F-16I Sufa is the better of the two kits.  Then you need to add aftermarket weapons for the Israeli load-out if you want it.  I'm betting the over-all fit is better too.

Kinetic has fixed their drooping nose problem for the most part, and it gives you all the weapons.  In the end it looks like a Sufa sitting on your shelf.

I bought the Has kit with resin from Wolfpack 600 Gal wing tanks and IsraDecals Python 4 missles, and an Aries pit to augment the Has kit pit.

This is the next kit on deck after I complete the P-47 I'm currently building (see pix in Builds in Process forum).

Bill L.
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Boltgun88 on Wed 07/22/09 09:23 PM
OK - the guy I am seeing on Friday had three of the Has F-16I kits and a large amount of Israeli specific resin and decals [I remember seeing several sheets of decals with large scorpions on them] - will grab them too.

Bill - he also had several sheets of ROKAF F-15K decal sheets in 1/48 and 1/32 along with some Cutting Edge F-15I Ra'am conversions.  Correct me if I am wrong - The ROK F-15K and the Israeli Ra'am are almost identical in structural appearance - Turkey feathers etc.......

Thanks,

Mike
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Bill L. on Thu 07/23/09 08:21 AM
Yes, they look pretty much the same, you can use the ROK kit as a base to build one.  I'm collecting parts to convert the Revell F-15E kit to the Ra'am.  I'd be very interested in the resin conversion in 1/48 if one is available at the estate sale.

Just to mention also, the Tamyia F-16CJ in 1/48 is supposed to be the best F-16 kit ever!!  if you can get them for $10 a piece I'd grab them.  You could easily sell them for more an get some of you money back.  Be sure to keep one for yourself!!!

Bill L.
Title: Re: Hasagawa F-16I versus Kinetic F-16I
Post by: Lee_K on Thu 07/23/09 09:33 AM
Quote from: Boltgun88 on Wed 07/22/09 08:38 PM
Bueno - Gracias - Estate sale - 2nd trip on Friday - Picked up a Tamiya 1/32 F-15E with bunker buster for 25 bones on Monday........ Still shaking my head on that one - going cash heavy on Friday - will advise and share the wealth.

That kit retails for $193 and is listed at GreatModels for $144!!!!!!!  There's a bargain if I ever saw one.  ;D

Lee K